I’d love to do a huge amount of Biblical and etymological research into this concept, but I’m at work and need to keep working. But here’s my frustration (and yes, this is in response to the whole Lakeland Outpouring ordeal.)
We aren’t supposed to judge people. Judge not lest you be judged, Plank in your eye, and all that. People who God have used mightily in the past have ranged from those who occasionally disobey God to people who are seriously messed up–David, Samson, Solomon, Martin Luther King Jr., and plenty of other people. If you read anything about the lives of “revival” preachers and honestly about other people God have used in the past, they’re all messed up people. The gifts of the Spirit–big, powerful, crazy things–are not necessarily accompanied by the fruits of the Spirit in individual leaders. Why? Because God uses messed up people to work his will. If he didn’t, whom would he have to use? I’m constantly arguing this, and I’m constantly a proponent of seeking the good in what God’s doing, not the bad in how people are messed up.
However, we are called to be wise. We are called to discern between good and evil spirits. We are called to not be misled by false prophets. We are told there will be false prophets among us, wolves among the flock. We have a responsibility to see that the people of God are being led well, and that they are not being misled–especially away from God and/or toward oppression or bondage. And if we are wise, we will be aware of the potential for bad teaching, bad leadership, and things that don’t lead toward God.
Therefore, we have two primary responsibilities, whether or not we’re responding to a situation like this: to seek God, and to help others seek God. If the Lakeland Outpouring is a big revival that’s sparked, led, and inspired by God, then our response is to participate in any way we can and to encourage others to do the same. But if there are spirits or leaders who don’t point toward God, we cannot in good conscience sit back and say “Well, God will deal with them.” How do you think God will deal with people who oppress his people? By judging them on judgment day? Yes; however, God calls us now to draw people out of bondage and oppression and fear and the world, and if we see people in the name of God leading people away from God then we need to be the first there to stop it.
Am I saying that the Lakeland Outpouring is not God? No. I never have. My first response to it was positive; I started with the assumption that it was a legitimate move of God led by legitimate seekers of God. It’s only been through my attempts to discern wisely and Biblically and lovingly that I’ve come to see a lot of very worrying things about the man who stands in front of the pulpit throughout the entire meetings, the man who directs the movement of the meetings and controls the microphone. So am I saying its leaders are imperfect? Absolutely. But that’s a given.
God is moving in Lakeland. People are seeking God in Lakeland. Real healings (seem to be) happening in Lakeland. These things are very good. Todd Bentley is leading poorly in Lakeland (not just his past–he’s doing it now.) Some people are faking things in Lakeland. Lakeland itself seems, from friends I’ve spoken to in Lakeland, to not be affected at all by a “revival” in its midst. These things are very bad. Therefore, we need to respond wisely.
I don’t have a point. I don’t have an agenda. I don’t even have a solution for these things I’m writing. I’m just trying to figure out what my response should be. I’m not for or against the Lakeland Outpouring. I’m for people seeking God, and I’m against people being misled. I’m for the Kingdom of God coming into our world, and I’m against Christian bubbles and sensationalist church meetings that have no impact on the world around them.
Finally, a somewhat related note on the word “revival”: I put it in quotes because it’s a hugely dangerous word, one whose misuse has convinced far too many people that a true revival looks like a bunch of people in a big Christian orgy seeking God together. I’m sorry, but something that doesn’t bring about the Kingdom of God isn’t a revival. Therefore, if a revival is breaking out somewhere, I think (my personal opinion–correct me if I’m wrong, this isn’t hugely researched and I’m not a scholar in the history of revivals) that the surrounding areas should be affected. If revival breaks out in Lakeland, then the city of Lakeland should be transformed. People should see God’s glory and want to repent and then follow and glorify him. (Berry tells me that many historically significant revivals have been characterized by individuals repenting and then receiving the work of the Spirit in their lives; he characterizes revivals by three things: Repentance, Faith, and then Mission). Sinners repent, sick healed, poor restored, widows and orphans and the oppressed and aliens freed and loved. Is that happening now? No, no, and more no. Might it happen? Please, Jesus, work mightily in the hearts of those people who are desperately seeking you and move them to make a difference in that city and in their home cities. Yes, it might, and I pray that it will.

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I wholeheartedly agree in the distinction between judging and discerning. We are certainly called to judge the fruit and test the spirit of all things. We are to judge within the body and we are to judge in such a way as to be comfortable with that same judgment to be directed at ourselves. That is not lack of judgment, but type of judgment.And I wholeheartedly agree in the calling to protect our brothers and sisters from false prophets and false moves of God. I just haven’t seen anything personally or heard anything personally, so my hold up is with that. I hesitate to do so with something that I haven’t personally experienced. That’s all I am saying. Otherwise, my opinions are merely gossip and hearsay. Maybe the only solution is to go; to listen and to see. But again, I will reiterate what I said before. You obviously have the ability to be led by the Spirit of Jesus to discern and to judge. And you are bound by that to then act accordingly.
Regarding Lakeland:
There could be changes going on that we don’t see. People are storming heaven every week for Ann Arbor and Ypsi. We are waiting. Expecting. Hoping. But not seeing much. We’re not giving up – who knows what God is doing in people’s hearts (including our own) or in the spiritual realm. Who knows what doors are opening or closing because of the prayer.
Come Lord Jesus! Do what you will. Wooo!
Also – I stuck the name of the city “Capernaum” in the Bible Gateway search and came up with possible parallels for a place where God works but the city doesn’t respond.
Man, all this thinking and writing takes up a lot of time!
You guys are all amazing.
hey bro – dallas willard has some great thoughts in the divine conspiracy pages 217-221. i’m not going to try to sum them up here, but i’m sure someone you know in gainesville has a copy if you’re interested. pax.
Hey Matt
I am, you may have noticed, rather far away from all that is happening down there. I have a few friends up here who are a bit hyped up about the whole thing, and I, not being one to get very hyped, don’t particularly know how to react yet.
What’s the crap with Bentley you keep hinting at? If you don’t want to post it here, could you perhaps email me or facebook message me about it? Several of my friends and youth group kids from my church are planning a trip down there, and I really don’t want them wandering into some sort of goshawful trap.
That being said, the plan of the kids I know going down is to get there, get the fire, and bring it back. I am fairly sure (fairly; again, I am all the way up here) that things have been being widespread after a fashion. I’ve heard one or two testimonies of people watching the revival on tv, taking hold of the gift of healing, and then healing people who were watching with them, or of people going to the revival, getting healed, and going home and healing other folks. Largely unsubstantiated, though.
Certainly, they could stand to be bringing more life to a larger number of people.
Yeah, I guess what I’m saying is that I’m pretty firmly ‘cautiously optimistic’ about what’s been going on, but I lack a real and concrete knowledge of it. You’re a bunch closer than I am, and have done loads of research: What’s the dealyo?
Sincerely, I guess?
Greg Smith