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	<title>Comments on: Between &#8220;judging&#8221; and &#8220;discerning&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Greg S.</title>
		<link>http://journal.thisenddown.com/2008/05/30/between-judging-and-discerning/comment-page-1/#comment-11046</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 02:10:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Matt
I am, you may have noticed, rather far away from all that is happening down there.  I have a few friends up here who are a bit hyped up about the whole thing, and I, not being one to get very hyped, don&#039;t particularly know how to react yet.  
What&#039;s the crap with Bentley you keep hinting at?  If you don&#039;t want to post it here, could you perhaps email me or facebook message me about it?  Several of my friends and youth group kids from my church are planning a trip down there, and I really don&#039;t want them wandering into some sort of goshawful trap.

That being said, the plan of the kids I know going down is to get there, get the fire, and bring it back.  I am fairly sure (fairly; again, I am all the way up here) that things have been being widespread after a fashion.  I&#039;ve heard one or two testimonies of people watching the revival on tv, taking hold of the gift of healing, and then healing people who were watching with them, or of people going to the revival, getting healed, and going home and healing other folks.  Largely unsubstantiated, though.  
Certainly, they could stand to be bringing more life to a larger number of people.  

Yeah, I guess what I&#039;m saying is that I&#039;m pretty firmly &#039;cautiously optimistic&#039; about what&#039;s been going on, but I lack a real and concrete knowledge of it.  You&#039;re a bunch closer than I am, and have done loads of research:  What&#039;s the dealyo?  
Sincerely, I guess?
Greg Smith</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Matt<br />
I am, you may have noticed, rather far away from all that is happening down there.  I have a few friends up here who are a bit hyped up about the whole thing, and I, not being one to get very hyped, don&#8217;t particularly know how to react yet.<br />
What&#8217;s the crap with Bentley you keep hinting at?  If you don&#8217;t want to post it here, could you perhaps email me or facebook message me about it?  Several of my friends and youth group kids from my church are planning a trip down there, and I really don&#8217;t want them wandering into some sort of goshawful trap.</p>
<p>That being said, the plan of the kids I know going down is to get there, get the fire, and bring it back.  I am fairly sure (fairly; again, I am all the way up here) that things have been being widespread after a fashion.  I&#8217;ve heard one or two testimonies of people watching the revival on tv, taking hold of the gift of healing, and then healing people who were watching with them, or of people going to the revival, getting healed, and going home and healing other folks.  Largely unsubstantiated, though.<br />
Certainly, they could stand to be bringing more life to a larger number of people.  </p>
<p>Yeah, I guess what I&#8217;m saying is that I&#8217;m pretty firmly &#8216;cautiously optimistic&#8217; about what&#8217;s been going on, but I lack a real and concrete knowledge of it.  You&#8217;re a bunch closer than I am, and have done loads of research:  What&#8217;s the dealyo?<br />
Sincerely, I guess?<br />
Greg Smith</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 15:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey bro - dallas willard has some great thoughts in the divine conspiracy pages 217-221.  i&#039;m not going to try to sum them up here, but i&#039;m sure someone you know in gainesville has a copy if you&#039;re interested. pax.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey bro &#8211; dallas willard has some great thoughts in the divine conspiracy pages 217-221.  i&#8217;m not going to try to sum them up here, but i&#8217;m sure someone you know in gainesville has a copy if you&#8217;re interested. pax.</p>
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		<title>By: Mom</title>
		<link>http://journal.thisenddown.com/2008/05/30/between-judging-and-discerning/comment-page-1/#comment-11019</link>
		<dc:creator>Mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 13:27:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding Lakeland:
There could be changes going on that we don&#039;t see. People are storming heaven every week for Ann Arbor and Ypsi. We are waiting. Expecting. Hoping. But not seeing much. We&#039;re not giving up - who knows what God is doing in people&#039;s hearts (including our own) or in the spiritual realm.  Who knows what doors are opening or closing because of the prayer.
Come Lord Jesus!  Do what you will. Wooo!

Also - I stuck the name of the city &quot;Capernaum&quot; in the Bible Gateway search and came up with possible parallels for a place where God works but the city doesn&#039;t respond.

Man, all this thinking and writing takes up a lot  of time! :)  You guys are all  amazing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding Lakeland:<br />
There could be changes going on that we don&#8217;t see. People are storming heaven every week for Ann Arbor and Ypsi. We are waiting. Expecting. Hoping. But not seeing much. We&#8217;re not giving up &#8211; who knows what God is doing in people&#8217;s hearts (including our own) or in the spiritual realm.  Who knows what doors are opening or closing because of the prayer.<br />
Come Lord Jesus!  Do what you will. Wooo!</p>
<p>Also &#8211; I stuck the name of the city &#8220;Capernaum&#8221; in the Bible Gateway search and came up with possible parallels for a place where God works but the city doesn&#8217;t respond.</p>
<p>Man, all this thinking and writing takes up a lot  of time! <img src='http://journal.thisenddown.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   You guys are all  amazing.</p>
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		<title>By: Kreshelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kreshelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 19:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wholeheartedly agree in the distinction between judging and discerning. We are certainly called to judge the fruit and test the spirit of all things. We are to judge within the body and we are to judge in such a way as to be comfortable with that same judgment to be directed at ourselves. That is not lack of judgment, but type of judgment.And I wholeheartedly agree in the calling to protect our brothers and sisters from false prophets and false moves of God. I just haven&#039;t seen anything personally or heard anything personally, so my hold up is with that. I hesitate to do so with something that I haven&#039;t personally experienced. That&#039;s all I am saying. Otherwise, my opinions are merely gossip and hearsay. Maybe the only solution is to go; to listen and to see. But again, I will reiterate what I said before. You obviously have the ability to be led by the Spirit of Jesus to discern and to judge. And you are bound by that to then act accordingly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wholeheartedly agree in the distinction between judging and discerning. We are certainly called to judge the fruit and test the spirit of all things. We are to judge within the body and we are to judge in such a way as to be comfortable with that same judgment to be directed at ourselves. That is not lack of judgment, but type of judgment.And I wholeheartedly agree in the calling to protect our brothers and sisters from false prophets and false moves of God. I just haven&#8217;t seen anything personally or heard anything personally, so my hold up is with that. I hesitate to do so with something that I haven&#8217;t personally experienced. That&#8217;s all I am saying. Otherwise, my opinions are merely gossip and hearsay. Maybe the only solution is to go; to listen and to see. But again, I will reiterate what I said before. You obviously have the ability to be led by the Spirit of Jesus to discern and to judge. And you are bound by that to then act accordingly.</p>
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		<title>By: This End Down &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Florida &#8220;Revival&#8221;</title>
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		<dc:creator>This End Down &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Florida &#8220;Revival&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 18:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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